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What is the difference between a cleared interest rate swap and a OTC interest rate swap with collateral in theory

I understand the aspect that central clearing reduced counterparty risks. From the valuation side, am I right that cash flows for both trades will be discounted at the OIS rate? The party that holds ...
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Discounted Costs [closed]

Suppose we were given a discounted cost of £12,956. This was generated using a discount factor of 3.5% and a time-horizon of 45 years. Is it possible to obtain what the non-discounted cost is today?...
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Proof that we can price any derivative as the discounted value of its expected return under the risk neutral measure

I am reading a paper which tries to convey the intuition behind the Black-Scholes pricing formula. In that paper, the author states the following two things without proof, and I would like to know why ...
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OTC equity option under foreign currency CSA

What adjustment do I need to make to the Black-Scholes equation when the CSA of an OTC equity option is in a different currency than the underlying in order to get the correct price? For instance, ...
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Correct Discount Curve for Exchange Traded (Centrally Cleared) Products

What's the correct discount curve to use for exchange traded products? Would these be discounted at the OIS rate (because of the central clearing house)? E.g. the E-Mini S&P500 Future @ CME: I'm ...
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Recommended Instruments (and sources) for Constructing Money Market Yield Curves

What instruments are the current industry recommendations for constructing money-market yield curves in some major currencies? The switch after the crisis to multi-curve methods is well documented on ...
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Can someone explain to me the intuition behind the discount factor for this simple payoff? [closed]

Let's say you enter into a contract today in which in time t, you receive the difference between the underlying stock price and 100. Denote the stock price as S. Why is today's value of such a ...
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Why use the risk-free rate for discounting in a risk neutral world?

I am reading Options, Futures, and other derivatives by John C. Hull. In the chapter on Binomial trees, he remarks: A risk-neutral world has two features that simplify the pricing of derivatives: ...
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Mark-to-market cross-currency basis swap valuation

I'm looking to replicate the EUR vs USD cross-currency basis curve that Bloomberg outputs (EUR.OIS collateralized in USD). I understand that Bloomberg is currently using the mark-to-market ...
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What discount rate should I use in domestic/foreign context?

I am trying to price a quanto option by monte carlo simulation via quanto adjustment. SDE: $dS_t^f=S_t^f(r_f - \rho \sigma_s \sigma_{d/f})dt + S_t^f\sigma_s dW_t^d$, where $S_t^f$ is the underlying ...
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Discounted self-financing portfolio still a self-financing portfolio?

Assume a self-financing portfolio $V_{t}=\theta_{t}^{0}S_{t}^{0}+\theta_{t}S_{t}$ with $S_{t}^{0}$ the value of the non-risky asset at time $t$ and $\theta_{t}^{0}$ the amount of shares of the non-...
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Why don't we build the discounting curve and projection curve from bonds

We know that we always build the discounting curve and projection curve from money market instruments, index Futures, interest rate swap and OIS Libor swap (depends on the period). But why don't we ...
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Source for derivation of acquisition price for given IRR and cash flows

Does anyone know a quotable source - book/academic or practitioner's paper - that derives the acquisiton price for a target firm when the buyer's desired IRR and all cash flows over time of the target ...
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Continuously Compounded rate less than a discretely compounded rate [closed]

I'm looking at an example in a well known book and its saying "consider an interest rate that is quoted as 10% per annum with semi annual compounding" The book puts 10% as the semi-annual rate, ...
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Bond discounting conventions

during the preparation for my thesis, I've come across some strange discrepancies between literature and the information I've been taught. It comes down to the proper way of discounting cash-flows of ...
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Monthly Discount Rate in NPV Calculation [closed]

I have been offered 2 payment methods as I was buying some tools for a company I work for. I need your help to assess the best method. Here it goes, Total cost is $100 and I don't want to pay it all ...
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Discounted asset price is martingale in BS model

I want to verify that the discounted stock price process $\mathrm{e}^{-r(T-t)}V(S_t,t)$ is a martingale in the BS-model. Using Ito's formula and the BS-PDE I get that $$ \mathrm{d}\mathrm{e}^{-r(T-t)}...
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What is the use of undiscounted Futures/Option Prices

Reading the great book of Gatheral on Vol Surfaces (link) I can't help but notice that throughout he uses undiscounted option prices (though he obviously never assumed rates to be zero). See e.g. ...
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ESTER replacement for EONIA/EURIBOR

Does anybody know what impact the replacement of EONIA with ESTER ( Euro Short TErm Rate ) will have on discounting existing or new derivatives once EONIA will be restricted as of Jan 2020? I'm ...
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Calculation VaR on long term period

I'm calculating VaR numbers from historical data for a single instrument (it's plain vanilla, not a derivative) and receive such variables: I could provide necessary data, and formulas but I guess ...
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Macaulay's Duration with Zero Rates

The definition of Macaulay's Duration is the weighted average maturity of cash flows and is calculated as- $$D_{mac}=\frac{\sum_ttPV(C_t)}{V}$$ where $PV(C_t)$ is the present value of the cash flow ...
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Calibration of stock's intrinsic value under the gordon model

Assume we have the constant growth Gordon model, for a stock paying dividend $D$,Earnings per Share $EPS$, annual growth rate $g=ROE*(1-\frac{D}{EPS})$ and discount rate $r$. Then: $IV=\frac{D*(1+g)}...
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Cheapest-to-deliver (CTD) discount curve

Can someone explain, in layman's terms, the mechanics (the algorithm steps) of the construction of the discount curve in the case when the CSA allows the posting party to choose a currency (from a ...
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Properties of Geometric Brownian Motion Integrated w.r.t. Time (i.e., distribution of a Yor Process)

Let $S_t$ be a process which follows a Geometric Brownian Motion: $\frac{dS_\tau}{S_\tau} = \mu \,d\tau + \sigma \,dW_\tau$ By Ito's lemma, we have: $S_T = S_t e^{(\mu-{\sigma^2 \over 2})(T-t) + \...
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In DCF, why is the discount rate interpreted as the minimum rate of return?

Is there an intuitive explanation of why, in DCF modeling, the discount rate should be interpreted as the minimum rate of return? This doesn't make sense to me because I think of the NPV as "what all ...
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Does the traditional NPV formula of a cashflow double count risk?

Consider a cash flow stream of a single payment (1 period away). Its net present value is typically presented as $$ \text{NPV} = {\text{EV}(\text{Cash Flow}) \over 1 + d} \tag{1} $$ Here $d$ is ...
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What discount rate for uncollateralized cross currency swaps?

To expand on this question, what happens if the uncollateralized swap is of a cross currency variety? Ignoring any xVAs, it's unclear which currency would best determine the discount rate: a) we ...
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Is an options implied dividends DCF model consistent with risk neutral/arbitrage-free valuation?

We're talking about how we price every financial instrument: by discounting the payoff, that is, we take future cash flows and we discount them by a proper rate which takes into account the risk of ...
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Bloomberg terminal swap zero curve calculation

I would like to ask about swap zero curve calculation algorithm by Bloomberg terminal. This is a plain vanilla CZK interest rate swap, fixing the Prague IBOR. My task is to calculate zero rates from ...
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Discount curve and payment frequency

In case of uncollateralised trades, where we use LIBOR rates for discounting, does the LIBOR tenor have to match with the payment frequency? For example, one of the swap leg pays USD floating amount ...
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Discount rate in IRS valuation

This might be a very basic question but I didn't find the answer in the materials I saw on Google. What is the interest rate used to compute the discounted cash flows for both the fixed and variable ...
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Discount Curve Vs Forward Curve

This could be a trivial question, but would I like to clear the concepts. Our firm started sourcing the Murex Trades which has all the variety of Derivative products. I noticed that the Curve ...
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What is the EUR swap curve on Bloomberg? I.e. what is the EUR equivalent of S23 curve on Bloomberg?

I am trying to understand the currency basis calculation and whether there is a difference in currency basis when quoted vs. OIS and -IBOR rates.
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Characteristics of a Discount Curve

Does the discount curve used for discounting cash flows have to be a zero coupon, annual compounding, actual by actual day basis curve? In practice, does a curve used for discounting necessarily have ...
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When to use what discount rate?

By discount curve $D(t)$ I mean the discount rate applied to a cash payment or receipt at time $t$. What is the correct terminology to use? I have seen the term "yield curve" thrown around, but I'm ...
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$\mathbb{P}$ vs $\mathbb{Q}$ Probabilities - Transitioning Between Measures

I'd like this question to definitively guide a practitioner to using both $\mathbb{P}$ vs $\mathbb{Q}$ probabilities in trading and research. Let's take only one fact as given: if I have a risk-...
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Up-front settlement of forward contract

One has entered a forward contract to purchase oil at $F_{t,T} = S_{t}e^{(r_f + s - c)(T-t)}$. The contract is entered at time $t$ and executed at time $T$. Where: $S_{t}$ is the spot price at time $...
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Z-Spread vs Discount Margin

I'm comparing two types of discounting: Z-Spread and Discount Margin. Reading the article by O'Kane Credit Spread Explained I found Z-Spread is used for fixed rate notes meanwhile Discount Margin, ...
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What Is the correct discounting, risky or riskless?

Suppose I can sell a European put in two ways: 1) in a mark to market collateralized market with collateral rate equal to the riskless rate $r$; 2) in a noncollaterized market where I get the payment ...
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Why do we discount in ois and not treasuries

OIS is the 1-day non-collateralized interbank interest rate. Such a rate is not risk-free. The market trades a very useful curve that is much closer to "risk-free": the government bond curve. So the ...
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Integrating Interest and Dividend Functions

How are interest rate and dividend functions integrated over time in practice? For example, what does it mean in practice to discount a current price by $e^{\int_{t_m}^{T}r_s ds }$ where $r_s$ is the ...
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Net present value when cash flows accrue continuously and are stochastic

I am trying to find a closed form solution to a stochastic integral -- which is really just a generalized expression for the expected net present value, $E^*[V_t]$, of an annuity (or perpetuity if $T \...
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How to come up with this present value in this question? [closed]

I'm starting to learn corporate finance on my own and have read about this question: You sell the rights to screen a film on TV once every two years for €0.8m. The film has just been screened. You ...
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Exponential Discounting of Cash Flows [closed]

I wonder for exponential discounting method to do the discount cash flow, may I doing it right as the following screenshot from Excel, assuming the discount rate is 4%? Thanks!
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Discounting Curve in Quantlib/Python

I'm using Python 2.7.12 with the QuantLib package. I'm trying to price fixed bonds. I understand how to create a bond object. How to get the "right" discounting curve is kind of a problem. Assuming a ...
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What is time 0 price of Libor starting t for the period $t$ to $t+\delta t$

I was asked this in an interview. The correct answer, I was told, follow from this argument Let $L_0[0,t]$ denote the time 0 price of Libor for period $0$ to $t$. Let $L_0[t,t+\delta_t]$ denote the ...
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Is the discount rate the same for all market participants?

When determining what to pay for a company or asset people typically discount the future cashflows by the cost of equity, which is defined as the 'risk free rate' ...
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Risk-neutral expectation equation with collateral and funding costs

I am looking at a paper by V. Piterbarg, Funding beyond discounting: collateral agreements and derivatives pricing, that you can download on the following link, in which the author adapts the Black-...
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Should cash-flows discounted at WACC be pre- or post-tax?

WACC in my mind is effectively a post-tax measure: $$\text{WACC} = \frac{E}{V} k_e+\frac{D}{V}k_d(1-t)$$ In this case should cash-flows, in particular loan cash-flows be adjusted for tax as well? ...
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For IFRS9, losses should be discounted with the EIR, why is that sensible?

Within the IFRS9 framework it is stated that one needs to determine the expected losses and discount these with the effective interest rate (EIR), i.e. the contractual rate at initiation. However, I ...