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Black (1976) model growth rate input for futures price

When using the Black 76 model for pricing European index options I've often seen people use 2 different rates: the typical risk free rate used to get the discount factor, and a growth rate used to get ...
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Trading desk assumes zero percent discount rate?

All the swaption and option models I have encountered at my employer's trading desks have assumed a zero percent discount rate. I have proposed using the LIBOR curve, but management responded that &...
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Forward EURUSD exchange rate for a Future date

Assume that on today's date as of 11/22/2020 the 1 year forward exchange rate for EUR/USD is ...
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If I have the present value of an amortizing bond's cashflows, how do I figure out price?

Say that I correctly compute the sum of cash flows of a given bond. How does this relate to the quoted price that most people understand? IE, based on the sum of cashflows I derive a PV of 5,000,000 ...
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NPV of Future Investment: Two Approaches?

Suppose I expect the return on my investment to follow some upward trend: $R_t = R_0 e^{\mu t}$, where $\mu > 0$. If I wish to compute the present value of these inflows, I would have $$ \int_o^\...
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QuantLib Compounded vs CompoundedThenSimple and Simple vs SimpleThenCompounded

I was experimenting on a FixedRateBond on QuantLib python port and have a question on the use of Compounded vs. CompoundedThenSimple methods of discounting. I am using the FixedRateBond.dirtyPrice() ...
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Using Integrals With Internal Rate of Return? [closed]

I'm taking a Calculus 2 course this Fall, and for my honors project, I will be using the IRR function. My professor is requesting that I figure out a way to use an integral with the IRR. The cash flow ...
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Why Bloomberg USD swap curve (YCSW0023 Index) changes last month?? and why put a Financial commodity future into this curve?

The Bloomberg USD swap curve (YCSW0023 Index) had changed and bloomberg put a Financial commodity future. Why changes? What the factor make this changes? Why bloomberg put into a financial commodity ...
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Expected return rate greater than required return rate [closed]

I am a beginner to finance, today I found a question looks very simple that I am not quite sure about it. Question: Given I am paid \$50,000 now, growing at $6\%$ per year for a total of 10 years, ...
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How to find OIS discounting factors from OIS swap rates. Please explain with example

Suppose I have the following OIS Swap rates: 1 year OIS Swap: 0.36% 2 year OIS Swap: 0.37% 3 year OIS Swap: 0.38% 4 year OIS Swap: 0.40% From these, how do I get the OIS Discounting factors for ...
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Quantlib-SWIG Python: impliedHazardRate requires “warm” discountcurve

I am getting different results from the CreditDefaultSwap().impliedHazardRate() method, depending on whether the discount curve passed is "cold" i.e. just created ...
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What is the standard risk free rate used to discount options?

Apologies if this has been asked before - but I wanted to clarify what the market standard was for discounting options i.e. what is the "risk free" rate actually used by quants and traders? I haven't ...
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Bond CSA hedging risk

If I have a CSA that contains say GBP Gilts and GBP cash, how do i hedge the risk that the gilt funding cost goes up. Lets say my portfolio is > 10 years. Let's assume I have a discount curve that ...
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SOFR Discounting & Price Alignment Transition

CME Group is planning to migrate the discounting to SOFR from Effective Fed Funds Rate (EFFR). Below is the link to their article: https://www.cmegroup.com/education/articles-and-reports/sofr-price-...
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SOFR Term Structure and Discounting

Recently I have been going through a lot of documents for SOFR (Secured Overnight Financing Rate). For Debt Markets (loans, etc.) - I understand that SOFR Forward looking term terms rates are ...
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Why do increasing spot rates have to be equal to or larger than the corresponding par rates?

Definitions Spot rate: the interest rate applied to a given spot investment to be repaid at maturity, as a single cash flow. Par rate: the interest rate such that the PV of the cash flows (lets say ...
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discounting currency swap

I need help with a currency swap problem: Remaining life: 15 months. Exchanging interest at 10% on £20 million in Sterlings for interest 6% on $30 million in Dollars. If swap were negotiated today, ...
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Find out the effective monthly discount rate for a 10% annual discount rate

First time posting. Apologies in advance if this is not the right question for this forum. If it is, please let me know if I should reformat this in a particular way. If it isn't, would it be more ...
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Discounting for XVA

I was thinking that since XVA is on uncollaterized exposure, we should be using LIBOR discounting environment. Why don't we do that?
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Arbitrage when discounting and forward computation is done with different curves

I notice that (equity derivatives) trades generally are priced with different forward curve and discounting curve, which clearly lead to arbitrage. Is this arbitrage value too small to be ignored? How ...
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Interest rate calculation [closed]

The task: With what interest rate given 2000 Euros after 2 years and 3000 Euros after 4 years, the actual value will be equal 4000 Euros. This task sounds confusing for me, I tried to calculate, but ...
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Formula for the discounted payoff of a digital option

In "Heard on the Street" it states that the expected discounted payoff of a digital option is $$H\exp^{-r(T-t)}N(d_2)$$ where $H$ is the payoff of the option, the exponential is the discounting. ...
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Calculating the Discount Margin for a FRN

I am working with a programming case where there are two methods of calculating YTM / discount margin for bonds and FRNs. Both methods use an iterative approach to find a rate / spread that ...
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Discounting in multicurve environment

Given that the longest tenor for LIBOR in 12M, what rate do we use to discount a cash flow due in, say, 18 months? Some suggest that we use the 12M rates for 1 year and 2 year to interpolate, but ...
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discount factor, zero rates, zero curve from BBG

How can I calculate the discount factor for row 1? I would do $$ \frac{1}{(1+ 2.13763/100)^{(90/360)}} = 0.994726197703956 $$ My ultimate goal is to reproduce the Zero Rates. Any hints welcome. ...
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Bootstrap ESTER and SOFR curves with Quantlib Python

Is it possible to bootstrap the new ESTER and SOFR term structures in Quantlib? More in general, does the process work as the usual one? Given these are simple indices that are published on a daily ...
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What is the difference between a cleared interest rate swap and a OTC interest rate swap with collateral in theory

I understand the aspect that central clearing reduced counterparty risks. From the valuation side, am I right that cash flows for both trades will be discounted at the OIS rate? The party that holds ...
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Discounted Costs [closed]

Suppose we were given a discounted cost of £12,956. This was generated using a discount factor of 3.5% and a time-horizon of 45 years. Is it possible to obtain what the non-discounted cost is today?...
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Proof that we can price any derivative as the discounted value of its expected return under the risk neutral measure

I am reading a paper which tries to convey the intuition behind the Black-Scholes pricing formula. In that paper, the author states the following two things without proof, and I would like to know why ...
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Correct Discount Curve for Exchange Traded (Centrally Cleared) Products

What's the correct discount curve to use for exchange traded products? Would these be discounted at the OIS rate (because of the central clearing house)? E.g. the E-Mini S&P500 Future @ CME: I'm ...
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Recommended Instruments (and sources) for Constructing Money Market Yield Curves

What instruments are the current industry recommendations for constructing money-market yield curves in some major currencies? The switch after the crisis to multi-curve methods is well documented on ...
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Can someone explain to me the intuition behind the discount factor for this simple payoff? [closed]

Let's say you enter into a contract today in which in time t, you receive the difference between the underlying stock price and 100. Denote the stock price as S. Why is today's value of such a ...
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Why use the risk-free rate for discounting in a risk neutral world?

I am reading Options, Futures, and other derivatives by John C. Hull. In the chapter on Binomial trees, he remarks: A risk-neutral world has two features that simplify the pricing of derivatives: ...
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Mark-to-market cross-currency basis swap valuation

I'm looking to replicate the EUR vs USD cross-currency basis curve that Bloomberg outputs (EUR.OIS collateralized in USD). I understand that Bloomberg is currently using the mark-to-market ...
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Why don't we build the discounting curve and projection curve from bonds

We know that we always build the discounting curve and projection curve from money market instruments, index Futures, interest rate swap and OIS Libor swap (depends on the period). But why don't we ...
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Source for derivation of acquisition price for given IRR and cash flows

Does anyone know a quotable source - book/academic or practitioner's paper - that derives the acquisiton price for a target firm when the buyer's desired IRR and all cash flows over time of the target ...
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Continuously Compounded rate less than a discretely compounded rate [closed]

I'm looking at an example in a well known book and its saying "consider an interest rate that is quoted as 10% per annum with semi annual compounding" The book puts 10% as the semi-annual rate, ...
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Bond discounting conventions

during the preparation for my thesis, I've come across some strange discrepancies between literature and the information I've been taught. It comes down to the proper way of discounting cash-flows of ...
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Monthly Discount Rate in NPV Calculation [closed]

I have been offered 2 payment methods as I was buying some tools for a company I work for. I need your help to assess the best method. Here it goes, Total cost is $100 and I don't want to pay it all ...
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Discounted asset price is martingale in BS model

I want to verify that the discounted stock price process $\mathrm{e}^{-r(T-t)}V(S_t,t)$ is a martingale in the BS-model. Using Ito's formula and the BS-PDE I get that $$ \mathrm{d}\mathrm{e}^{-r(T-t)}...
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What is the use of undiscounted Futures/Option Prices

Reading the great book of Gatheral on Vol Surfaces (link) I can't help but notice that throughout he uses undiscounted option prices (though he obviously never assumed rates to be zero). See e.g. ...
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ESTER replacement for EONIA/EURIBOR

Does anybody know what impact the replacement of EONIA with ESTER ( Euro Short TErm Rate ) will have on discounting existing or new derivatives once EONIA will be restricted as of Jan 2020? I'm ...
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Calculation VaR on long term period

I'm calculating VaR numbers from historical data for a single instrument (it's plain vanilla, not a derivative) and receive such variables: I could provide necessary data, and formulas but I guess ...
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Macaulay's Duration with Zero Rates

The definition of Macaulay's Duration is the weighted average maturity of cash flows and is calculated as- $$D_{mac}=\frac{\sum_ttPV(C_t)}{V}$$ where $PV(C_t)$ is the present value of the cash flow ...
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Calibration of stock's intrinsic value under the gordon model

Assume we have the constant growth Gordon model, for a stock paying dividend $D$,Earnings per Share $EPS$, annual growth rate $g=ROE*(1-\frac{D}{EPS})$ and discount rate $r$. Then: $IV=\frac{D*(1+g)}...
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Cheapest-to-deliver (CTD) discount curve

Can someone explain, in layman's terms, the mechanics (the algorithm steps) of the construction of the discount curve in the case when the CSA allows the posting party to choose a currency (from a ...
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Properties of Geometric Brownian Motion Integrated w.r.t. Time (i.e., distribution of a Yor Process)

Let $S_t$ be a process which follows a Geometric Brownian Motion: $\frac{dS_\tau}{S_\tau} = \mu \,d\tau + \sigma \,dW_\tau$ By Ito's lemma, we have: $S_T = S_t e^{(\mu-{\sigma^2 \over 2})(T-t) + \...
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In DCF, why is the discount rate interpreted as the minimum rate of return?

Is there an intuitive explanation of why, in DCF modeling, the discount rate should be interpreted as the minimum rate of return? This doesn't make sense to me because I think of the NPV as "what all ...
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Does the traditional NPV formula of a cashflow double count risk?

Consider a cash flow stream of a single payment (1 period away). Its net present value is typically presented as $$ \text{NPV} = {\text{EV}(\text{Cash Flow}) \over 1 + d} \tag{1} $$ Here $d$ is ...
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What discount rate for uncollateralized cross currency swaps?

To expand on this question, what happens if the uncollateralized swap is of a cross currency variety? Ignoring any xVAs, it's unclear which currency would best determine the discount rate: a) we ...